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God's plan after Adam ate the fruit - interesting concepts



 
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GIC
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2001 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting that God said to Eve in the second half of Gen. 3:16, "Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you."
You know ladies, all we want from our husbands is to be more intimate, and emotional, right? God has made our desire for our husbands. We want them to be more attentive to us as their wives. He planned it that way after the fall. Funny that all we see is the first half of the verse. The pains in child birth, and wow is there pain or what? now I see about the desire, but what about the part about "he will rule over you."? Any ideas about that? Answers please. thanks GIC


(Edited by GIC at 6:59 pm on Mar. 2, 2001)
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SAM
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2001 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found a cross reference which states, "Her sexual attraction for the man, and his headship over her, will become intimate aspects of her life in which she experiences trouble and anguish rather than unalloyed joy and blessing."
It made me think about the level of intimacy and oneness Adam and Eve must have experienced before the fall. It says trouble and anguish rather than joy and blessing will follow. So many women have trouble with the rule over or in Colossians 3:18 with the "submit" part. I don't think God ever intended us to have to be
ruled over. It was our own doing in the garden that made that change. No wonder men and women struggle with their relationships now and it is so much hard work. When we allow our husbands to be heads of our homes and submit to them, these pleases God. I don't feel this was meant to be a roll over and play dead proposition, but a matter of discussion and prayer when there are decisions to be made. This one
always touches a "hot button" with many women.
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GIC
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2001 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam, I agree. The part about submit is very misunderstood by alot of women. I talk to many women who think "I am women hear me roar" is more than a song. When they see the "Wives submit to your husbands, as to the Lord."
They don't see the verse in Eph. that states "For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the savior." Christ died for His church. How much more plain can that be. Thier relationship is to be one of love and respect. We sabotage ourselves by trying to take over and control the plan. I just shake my head as I continue to grow in my walk with Christ, it seams so clear! Why didn't I see it before?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i believe that the attitude of 'am a woman hear me roar' has to do with the fact that men don't love their wives as the Jesus loves the church.
i fully agree with the notion that women should submit to their husbands in the Lord, i repeat in the Lord because this is a spiritual realm as well.
but then to make it easier for the women to submit to the man the men must show a love and care as what Christ would have shown. looking at the business world the boss (the head of the company) cares and ensures that the needs of his employees are met and inturn the employees give him/her the needed respect and submit to his/her authority. once the needs of the employees aren't met they leave or search for greener pasteurs or the productivity[success] of the business deflates. likewise it is in marriage and i believe that for women to submit they will gladly do such if there is love given.
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