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CMcC Full Member

Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 53
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:55 am Post subject: Hubby wants proof |
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| My Hubby and I had another long talk about religion last night. (2 1/2 hours!) He's pretty stuck on a couple of points. I had to explain several times that because we believe what we do, it's our duty to "recruite" new believers. Anyway, I won't go into all of it. But basically it boils down to Hubby wants God to proove himself. I told him many things, he doesn't believe me. I told him it wasn't a good idea to test God, but he still wants God to proove himself. I told him to ask God for guidance and understanding. He's done that in the past and had "no results". I told him the next step after asking is waiting and listening. Then ask again. After asking, comes seeking, then comes knocking.... Anyway, Hubby told me I could ask God to give him his proof. So that is what I'm doing, and I'm asking you to pray the same. Let got be his guidance and understanding so my Hubby finally gets his proof. Of course, I'm praying it will be a good proof....I don't want to be struck down with my Hubby when he denies God! Really, I don't think my Hubby will be receptive in listening to God or giving him the credit when something does happen. Of course, I give it to God. It's out of my hands. God knows best. Like I said, please pray for my Hubby that he gets his proof. I'll keep you posted on whatever happens next. |
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babycakes Veteran

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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:15 am Post subject: |
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All he needs to do is ask God to reveal himself to him. That's a pretty dangerous ask or prayer.
As for proof God exists, all you have to do is look at nature, the universe and the human body. You have a choice to believe there was a creator of this universe or there was not. It had to begin somewhere. If he wants scientific proof then there are a lot of great books out there. Scientific and Christian. |
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webacus Veteran

Joined: 02 Mar 2001 Posts: 608 Location: Behind you.
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:35 am Post subject: |
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Is this the husband who had the gas problems?
If he's always praying with the motive of, God prove yourself,
I would suggest he probably wouldn't see answered prayer anyway
due to maturity/faith issues.
--How long has your husband been a Christian?
--Is he a Christian?
--Did he always have this attitude toward God (prayer)? |
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CMcC Full Member

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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:06 am Post subject: |
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Webacus: Yup, it's the gassy hubby.
I realize that he's not receptive enough to see answer to prayer. He doesn't understand that, though. I've tried to explain it to him....
He has NEVER been a Christian. I don't know if he has always had this attitude towards God in prayer. If he did, it's no wonder he didn't get his "proof". He has told me he has researched God, but he doesn't even know/understand the main basics. He believes Jesus was a intelligent man who had good morals and was a good teacher. That's it. Not the Son of God.
And yes, babycakes, I agree with you that it's dangerous to test God like that. As for nature relating to God, he believes some higher power very long ago "sneezed or something" and created us and everything in the world..... However, that same higher power is long gone and does not have any power over us or any circumstance today or at anytime in the past. He says we give God too much power. If he really did exist, how could we serve a God so cruel. Why doesn't God just stop all evil. Trust me, I told him my point of view. But he wasn't buying it.... |
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webacus Veteran

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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:40 am Post subject: |
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Okay.
If he's not a (biblically defined) Christian, than this
is not surprising.
(As you know) A Christian has a connection with God that helps him
talk with God, sense his leading, and see answered prayer.
It's a Spirit thing.
| Quote: | | He believes Jesus was a intelligent man who had good morals and was a good teacher. That's it. Not the Son of God. |
You might ask your husband about this...
Jesus himself said he was the son of God. Does that make Jesus a liar? After all, Jesus had "good morals" ... Can't have it both ways .  |
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CMcC Full Member

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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:55 am Post subject: |
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[quote="webacus"]Jesus himself said he was the son of God. Does that make Jesus a liar? After all, Jesus had "good morals" ... Can't have it both ways . [/quote]
Well put. I'll use that.
Anymore insight? He's looking towards other religions to find his answers. He doesn't consider himself a part of any religion, though. But he is quoting and more less "following" (for lack of a better word) Toaism and Buddhism. That's what he relates to right now.... He seems very turned off to Christianity at the moment....even though he has seen (and admits) it is definately working for me. He loves the changes in me, but he doesn't give God the credit. No matter how much I explain...I just can't seem to get through to him. It's almost like he shuts down. He is open to every other religion except Christianity. For that, he reserves to run quickly in the opposite direction.... |
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webacus Veteran

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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Know that family & close friends (spouses) have the most
difficult time reaching people spiritually.
And if he's not in a receptive, seeking mode, no one
will get through to him.
Have you read Lee Strobel's:
Surviving a Spiritual Mismatch in Marriage ?
It's an excellent book. I highly recommend you read it.
Also, check out these articles:
http://www.growthtrac.com/artman/topics/31.php
In the meantime, pray -- and love him, respect him, and be an
example to him. |
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CMcC Full Member

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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks. I haven't read that book by Strobel yet. I'll definately have to check it out. As for the articles you suggested...I think I'll have to print them out. They were very helpful. It's so encouraging to hear that it's not my fault that I haven't been able to spiritually reach him.  |
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