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Grace
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Today, I was having a discussion with my friend. We started discussing prophecy. She and I had different views on what prophecy is. For that matter, what is witnessing? She said that witnessing is telling the Truth in Love. I thought that is prophecy. Please Help! ???
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Janine
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Prophecy is telling forth what God wants said, His message. That may include predicting future events (which I don't believe happens any more in the OT/early church style, but that's another topic...)
In the actual functioning of someone doing it, there's not a lot of difference between "prophet", "angel", "messenger", "mouthpiece"...
But, basically, if you listen to a Sunday a.m. sermon, the preacher's putting out prophecy.
As far as testifying/witnessing, as in what some believers do when they're telling about what they feel Jesus has done for them, well, that's kinda subjective... I can only be a witness of what I personally have seen.
I can point out some witnesses in the Bible, and what they saw. I can credit God with the triumph over sin that is helping me be conformed to the image of His Son... that's witnessing, I guess. |
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Davep
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Witnessing
Anything which projects or communicates one's knowledge, love, or awareness of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ from one person to another. This includes someone who is a Contagious Christian who's Christian behavior acts as a sign to a non-believer, therefore it can be done with action with or without using words. Witnessing is sharing anything which help a non-believer understand or come to Jesus.
Prophecy
Not to be confused with psychics. Prophets are simply God's mail carriers. They deliver a special message from God relating to the future dealing with a specific purpose. They don't predict the world's future, but rather God's future for the world for a specific event.
| Quote: | | But, basically, if you listen to a Sunday a.m. sermon, the preacher's putting out prophecy |
I would disagree that a pastor's sermon is prophecy in fact that is one of the problems with the church today. Pastors should stick with the Bible, and as the Bible says "Do not go beyond what is written." 1 CO 4:6 |
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Grace
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Thanks for your replies. This helps.  Grace |
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Janine
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| Davep wrote: | Prophecy
Not to be confused with psychics. Prophets are simply God's mail carriers. They deliver a special message from God relating to the future dealing with his specific purpose. They don't predict the world's future, but rather God's future for the world for a specific event.
| Quote: | | But, basically, if you listen to a Sunday a.m. sermon, the preacher's putting out prophecy |
I would disagree that a pastor's sermon is prophecy in fact that is one of the problems in church today. Pastors should stick with Bible, and as the Bible says "Do not go beyond what is written." 1 CO 4:6 |
If the men you listen to on a Sunday morning aren't delivering God's mail, straight from the Bible; if they give you no special message, from the Bible, relating to your future and God's specific purposes; if the guy up on the platform or behind the lecturn or wearing the cordless microphone, isn't speaking the very oracles of God, right from the Bible, then you need a different man to teach you.
It helps when people in a discussion use the same dictionary, I guess. I was coming at "witness", in that if I see or know something by direct knowledge, then I can testify. It ain't hearsay, then. And the "prophet", "angel", "messenger", "apostle" and "one sent" perform the same broadly defined general function... they all put out God's word. Or else. (See Balaam) :0 |
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Davep
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The purpose of prophesy is to provide new revalations. Most Christians believe that the office of ''prophet'' - along with the office of ''apostle'' - passed away around the end of the first century.
Pastors are to share and help explain the word of God which has already been written, they are not to add to it. Calling a Pastor's Sermon prophesy elevates its. The Pastor's message is not the inspired word of God, no matter how good it sounds; only the Bible can make such a claim..
When we elevate the Pastor's words and call them prophesy we start to track on dangerous ground. They are not to be creating new messages or new words, they are just to explain what has already been spoken and given to us in the Bible.
A Pastor repeating the Word of God from the Bible and providing their explanation, cannot be equated with someone prophesing. |
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Janine
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I believe that the "office", if you want to call it that, of 'prophet", as well as that of "apostle", has passed away, in the sense that Elijah and Simon Peter were a prophet and an apostle.
It's just that anyone who is proclaiming God's Word, His message, from Holy Writ, had better handle it prophet-like, because he is bringing forth God's Word and will to the listeners.  |
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