Little Girl Expelled because of her Mother - Was this Christian School right?

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SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) - A Christian school has expelled a kindergartner because her mother works as a nude dancer.

"If you choose to do the wrong thing willfully, then God's word instructs me as to what my responsibility is," said Rick Cole, head pastor of the Capital Christian Center church.

Christina Silvas, a 24-year-old single mother, said she took the job at Gold Club Centerfolds in part to afford the $400 monthly tuition at the church-run school.

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Question
Did the Pastor do the the proper thing? :dozingoff:

Janine · Posted: Fri May 17, 2002 6:45 am Post subject:

If the mom is a church member, the Bible outlines the loving way we handle brothers & sisters in sin. That may include a lot of things, up to asking them to leave your fellowship. So, although you'd certainly think the church would want to hang on to the kid & try to give her some Christian influence, there's only so much to be done if the mom chooses a livelihood that makes its money from lewdness, lasciviousness, etc.

If the mom isn't a church member, but she signed an agreement that included character/behavior factors for her household, then the school has the right and obligation to cut off the poor little girl and her mom. I say obligation, not just right. The other parents, whatever their varied motives, chose that school in part because it would do a housecleaning on a parent with a career like that. It's not a public school.

To tell you the truth, the mom sounds like an ACLU plant. If she's not, they'll likely latch onto her soon, they or some other group willing to tear down all things religious.

SAM · Veteran Joined: 03 Mar 2001 Posts: 1950 Location: Chicago

I have friends whose children are in Christian schools and they have an agreement they have to sign. I'm sure this mother did too.

The pastor or congregation have a responsibility to come forward to talk with this mother. As to whether they did this first or not, may be another story. If they did not speak to her first, then I don't feel they acted biblically.

Grace · Full Member Joined: 24 May 2001 Posts: 90 Location: IL.

Isn't this topic tied into our other discussion about "persuing a sinful lifestyle." (I can't remember the name of the post, maybe losing your salvation).
I wouldn't watch the movie "Striptease" with Demi Moore because I failed to see the moral value in it. I don't think that exposing your child to this lifestyle teaches them biblical responsibility. Even if you need to make money, there are other honest ways beside stripping to make a living. I have to agree with Janine about the ACLU.

Davep · Veteran Joined: 02 Apr 2002 Posts: 463

What Would Jesus Do? versus What Would the Pharisee Do? :rolleyes:

MK 2:17
On hearing this, Jesus said to them, "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners."

JN 8:7
"If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." :blush:

We all agree that the Mom needs some help, and that if she was a member of that Church, the Pastors were well within the Bible for the any actions towards her.

But what about the Pastor expelling the little girl? I think the focus is too much on the parent. The question is plain and simple should the little girl be able to go to the Christian School?

Also what sins of the parent are excluded? What sins of the parent are justification for expelling a kid? How about the unmarried single parent, who is having sex with their boyfriend or girlfriend. How about a spouse who is having an affair with some else. Once you start to judge people's lifestyles you can no longer be selective in what sins you accept and which sins you don't accept.

Jesus hung out with prostitutes, money grubbing tax collectors, and theives. This girl's Christain Education may someday be the basis for her witnessing to her Mom, or a way for her Mom to really accept Jesus into her life.

SAM · Veteran Joined: 03 Mar 2001 Posts: 1950 Location: Chicago

Great point Dave.
I missed that part, the pastor should have never expelled the little girl. Her possible witness to her mother would be what Jesus wants. Where was the love of Christ in all of this?

Grace · Full Member Joined: 24 May 2001 Posts: 90 Location: IL.

Dave, you have got a good point, although, we don't know the conversation after the school/church heard of the proffesion. I see from the article that someone called ~ was it a pastor, a parent, a deacon?~ and said "your not welcome here." The next statement is the pastor said, "Stop stripping or your child will be expelled with 3 weeks to go in the school year. She did sign an agreement. Did she go to the school for help with her tuition? To make a judgement call without all the facts is impossible. Is it right to make a judgement call at all? Grace

Davep · Veteran Joined: 02 Apr 2002 Posts: 463

Janine · Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 12:16 am Post subject:

They offered reduced tuition, payment plans, etc.

If the school accepts a number of children from "unacceptable" backgrounds every year, as a loving way to give the kids Christian upbringing, more power to them. Surely they could keep the little girl then. But, it seems the mom couldn't even stand to put her livlihood aside even temporarily, to get the kid thru the end of the school year. The school people would've seen to it she didn't starve or lose her home, if they were Christians.

Who doesn't feel for the kid? What Christian wouldn't want to try to offer the mom some options?

I sincerely hope someone heard about the mom's profession in the community & went to the website for pictures/proof, so as to not be simply gossiping about her with no proof, when they "turned her in"... I really, really hope for their sake(s) they weren't dragging their nasty little eyes over internet porn, when they suddenly unexpectedly found her on a website. :angry:

Davep · Veteran Joined: 02 Apr 2002 Posts: 463

kelly · Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 8:35 pm Post subject:

I have to agree with Dave on this one...I don't think the little girl should be expelled. If there was an agreement signed, then legally they had the right. Biblically, however, I think it is wrong. Like Dave said, if the schools were to look into the sins of all parents, a whole lot of kids would be expelled and missing a good solid foundation in Christ. This may be that little girl's only exposure to Jesus. This education may be what keeps her from following in her mom's footsteps. This school's teaching's may one day get her mother saved! The children should not be held responsible for the parents sins, didn't we just go throught that with the discussion on "curses"?

Janine · Posted: Wed May 22, 2002 7:05 am Post subject:

Oh, puhleeze, Davep!

An "unacceptable" background is whatever the school says it is and whatever the mom agreed to when she signed their rules & regs agreement when she put the child in the school. Of course all the parents who are unrepentant gossips or gluttons or jaywalkers also need their kids expelled... either the admin. oughta apply the guidelines evenly across the board, or lighten up on the guidelines!

It's a moot point, now, anyway, for the family in question, because the mom has agreed to find another line of work and the kid is finishing school, according to the radio news over the weekend.

Topic surely has provoked some good thought & discussion, hasn't it?

webacus · Posted: Wed May 22, 2002 8:11 am Post subject:

Good topic, people!

Too bad the media got a hold of this. My guess is the mother, looking for sympathy, told her story to a local news outlet.
Then, it got more press than it deserved.

I agree that whatever agreement/understanding she had when she signed-up, that agreement should be enforced.

You know, not all parents and children at Christian schools are "Christian"... Hopefully, behind the scenes, that school/church counseled the mother privately. Hopefully, that pastor had an opportunity to explain to the mother how her career choice conflicts with what her daughter is learning in Christian school. Hopefully, the school administration enforced the agreement, but also handled the situation with love, patience and discernment.

Grace · Full Member Joined: 24 May 2001 Posts: 90 Location: IL.

Well said Webacus! Cool

Grace

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