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Karelina9 Full Member

Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 65 Location: at His feet......in prayer
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:49 pm Post subject: husband will be starting counseling..... |
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Just wanted to let you know that my husband is starting to open up and talking a little bit to someone at our church. Please pray that he will open up and make himself available to recieve whatever help is needed.
Thank you for your prayers. |
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SAM Veteran

Joined: 03 Mar 2001 Posts: 2170 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:45 am Post subject: |
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Yeah God!
I'll continue to lift you all up in prayer. |
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rdsmith3 Veteran

Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 391 Location: NJ
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:03 am Post subject: |
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| Praise God! I pray that his heart will continue to soften, and that he will turn towards God and seek to do His will. |
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Karelina9 Full Member

Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 65 Location: at His feet......in prayer
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:54 pm Post subject: He's out with someone now...... |
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They are talking. Please join me in prayer...
Father I pray that you would be with Mark and Steve as they talk together. I pray that you would give Steve discernment and insight into Marks heart and mind. I pray that Steve would speak words from your heart and that Mark would recieve them graciously. I pray that you would be Glorified in this situation. In Jesus name, Amen!
Thank you. I will give you updates when I can..... God Bless, and thank you |
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rdsmith3 Veteran

Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 391 Location: NJ
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 6:20 am Post subject: |
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| I joined you in prayer. |
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Karelina9 Full Member

Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 65 Location: at His feet......in prayer
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:57 am Post subject: Thank you |
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The talk went ok I guess. I think the man who was talking to him just wanted to create a relationship basically. It's probably good, because its then they will be able to open up about real life, right?
They did pray together, and I think was good thing.
We'll see..... God is doing something. I guess this is where we pray and wait.
Thank you for praying with me on this. I'm in place of numbness, and its good to have someone around, even if its over the net, to pray with me. Thanks.
"When two or more join together in prayer, there I am with them" |
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rdsmith3 Veteran

Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 391 Location: NJ
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:35 am Post subject: |
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The fact that he went that first time is a huge step forward, I believe. I assume your husband did not come home saying, "I am not going back to talk to him again," right? Did they set up a time for the next talk?
I know I get very impatient and I sometimes fail to see the progress that the Lord is creating in my life and in my marriage.
I will pray again for your husband and your marriage. |
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Karelina9 Full Member

Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 65 Location: at His feet......in prayer
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 7:26 am Post subject: yeah |
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He came back saying he enjoyed talking with him. They didn't cover anything going on here, but they talked about his job a little and they prayed for both households. I think its a good start, I guess.
The other night we had a pretty big argument. Mainly him speaking. He asked my opinion about an argument he was having with our teen daughter. She made a comment, and he took offense to it. He pretty much sand blasted her in defense of himself. I didn't feel he needed my support in it. The comment she made was pretty spot on. But anyway, he totally alienated her for her insight. He then asked me if he was wrong, I took the switzerland stand. The only thing I said was, this. You may want to consider that she is a young adult(19) and that your discusions with her should reflect one that leans more toward a discussion you would have with another adult observing your actions. He then told me that he no longer wanted to be a part of the family. *sigh* I jsut siad, look if you wnat my opinion, than you should be willing to talk with me about it and dismiss it right away. I told him that I would have come in and told our daughter that she could have a approached this conversation a better way, but he was too busy throwing arrows at her and I had no room to speak. Anyway..............it was a not a good night. But I knwo that God is doign something, right? So I will just just keep on praying. I want to support him, but not on things that I don't agree with, am I wrong?
I'm praying for your household too. satan is trying to seek and destroy homes in this day and age, we all need to support each other in prayers.
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babycakes Veteran

Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 315 Location: In Prayer
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 8:51 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | So I will just just keep on praying. I want to support him, but not on things that I don't agree with, am I wrong? |
Please consider picking up the book by Emerson Eggerichs called
Love and Respect.
If he asked you your opinion about the situation and discussion with your daughter - he wanted to know that you supported him. You may not have agreed with him, but he was asking for your support and respect.
Think back for a moment - in the course of that discussion did you sharing "I" feelings or were you sharing "you did this" and "you did that" to where you were defending your daughter over your husband? |
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Karelina9 Full Member

Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 65 Location: at His feet......in prayer
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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I shared that I didn't want to be put in the middle in the first place. I did think my daughter was right in her observation. I also felt that she could have approached it differently. I told him both things. I will support him when I feel he's right, I will even support him if there is question to who is right. But I can not support him in being wrong, and would not want him to support me either in that case. If I was blantently sinning in front of my kids, I would hope that he would tell me so. I wouldn't have spoken of it in front of the kids, but he wouldn't drop it, he wanted to pick a fight, and he did. I remained calm, I never spoke disrespectfully to him. I only pointed out the words he had used, and allowed him to see it again. My girls are not stupid and will know if I am supporting something that goes against Gods precepts.
If you would have done something differently, how would you have handled this situation?
| Quote: | | "in the course of that discussion did you sharing "I" feelings or were you sharing "you did this" and "you did that" to where you were defending your daughter over your husband?" |
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babycakes Veteran

Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 315 Location: In Prayer
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:43 am Post subject: |
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In Matthew 18:15 we are instructed on how to correct another believer.
“If another believer sins against you, go privately and point out the offense. If the other person listens and confesses it, you have won that person back.
| Quote: | | If I was blantently sinning in front of my kids, I would hope that he would tell me so. |
I agree, he should tell you so but privately.
I understand that he pushed the issue and wouldn't let it go and wanted to pick a fight. That obviously does not make his behavior very loving. It's at that point I would contemplate saying, "Now is not the time - can we cool down for a few minutes and discuss this privately?"
I know you believe you are right and you very well may be. You can sit back and be dead right, or you can alienate your husband because he may very well feel you did not respect him. Respect is everything to a man in front of others.
| Quote: | | I never spoke disrespectfully to him. I only pointed out the words he had used, and allowed him to see it again. |
Even though you did not speak disrespectfully to him, your actions may have showed him otherwise in front of your daughter. This was between the two of them and perhaps, mom should have left the room. It might be time to tell him you are sorry for getting in the middle of this.
| Quote: | | I want to support him, but not on things that I don't agree with, am I wrong? |
If it is truly an issue of sin, that is one thing. If is simply an issue of differences of opinion or perspective, then "yes" you should support him.
You may not always agree with him, you may not always see things his way, that's because you are two different people. You can still support each other - it's not a matter of who's right and who's wrong. |
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Karelina9 Full Member

Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 65 Location: at His feet......in prayer
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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I want to let you know, that my daughter had left the room by then. My other daughter was there, in fact the whole family had been there in the room because we were watching TV together.
It was a sin issue, not a matter of opinion. Anyway, its over now.
I don't need to apologize because I didn't say or do anything that was against God. I didn't get in the middle, he PUT ME there. I was trying to stay out of it.
If I had left the room he would have seen that as a disrespectful action. To him it would have been that I had abandoned him. Anyway, I wanted to address your statements. I think you are adding more into this than there was in the first place. lol. That storm is over for now.
He actually realized that he was being a nugde. He still defends his position from the arguement, but he realizes that it wasn't right to drag me into it. |
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babycakes Veteran

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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:29 am Post subject: |
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That's good.
Sorry, just trying to give you options and things to consider from a different perspective. I know it's hard here on the boards to sometimes add the details of the situation (we'd be typing a book), so one can only take a guess at what's behind the situation.
Just food for thought and God's word is all we can offer. |
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Karelina9 Full Member

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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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Its all good. I know it hard to read between the lines sometimes. Sometimes whe I'm posting I jsut try to get in the major details and don't give the whole ball of wax because the time it takes to type it all! lol.
Anyway, thank you for adding your advice in there, it does actually help to look at things from all angles.  |
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