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dose anyone know the exact verse in the bible about curses?



 
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alannah
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:38 am    Post subject: dose anyone know the exact verse in the bible about curses? Reply with quote

The lord talks to me in my dreams and I can hear the voice of the lord talking to me clearly as if I were having a conversation with another person.


some one is purposely causing trouble between my husband and I for us not to get along. Things just dosent go right for my husband and I and it seems that every time we try to get up on our feet we are constantly get knocked back down.

my husband and I are both are saved and we go to church and worship the lord I just dont understant why see it so hard! I have reason to believe that something evil or someone evil is working against my husband and I.

can anyone point out a verse that might give me some kind of understanding as to why my husband and I just cant get up on our feet or why we are having such bad luck?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am sorry you are having troubles. It does seem as if the evil one attacks marriages.

How about John 16:33

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I have said these things to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world


We will have troubles in this world.

Without knowing more about what is going on, it's hard to help further. May I suggest that you talk to someone at your church?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more thought. Read Ephesians 6:10-18 to learn how to resist attacks

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The Whole Armor of God
Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places. Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand firm. Stand therefore, having fastened on the belt of truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness, and, as shoes for your feet, having put on the readiness given by the gospel of peace. In all circumstances take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming darts of the evil one; and take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God, praying at all times in the Spirit, with all prayer and supplication. To that end keep alert with all perseverance,
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank you that really helped me. now i know all i have to do now is just keep praying that god delivers me and my husband out of this bondage. i know that the lord did not marry me and this man for nothing. i know that he is got to deliver us out sooner or later, i know that god is not going to keep us in this mess for long. he said so in his word that if we seek ye the kingdom of god first then all things should be added unto us. i will not stop praying for my husband regardly of what my family thinks because i know what god promised me.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a few, so not really sure what your reference might me -

Deuteronomy 28:14-16

Do not turn aside from any of the commands I give you today, to the right or to the left, following other gods and serving them.

Curses for Disobedience
However, if you do not obey the LORD your God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come upon you and overtake you:
You will be cursed in the city and cursed in the country.


Proverbs 28:27
He who gives to the poor will lack nothing, but he who closes his eyes to them receives many curses.

Jeremiah 11:8
But they did not listen or pay attention; instead, they followed the stubbornness of their evil hearts. So I brought on them all the curses of the covenant I had commanded them to follow but that they did not keep.' "


I've discovered that marriage isn't easy. In fact, most of the time it's rather challenging. But, all of our relationships seem to be that way. I think our own sinful hearts have a lot to do with it. Smile

When you think about it, we have a relationship with our Lord Jesus Christ. It is always easy? No. It can be downright hard and painful at times.

Then we have brothers, sisters, moms, dads, neighbors and co-workers too. They're not easy either.

It takes effort... constant effort and reliance on God. So, I can't see why our marriages would be any different. Unrealistic expectations get in the way of what God has planned for us.

He designed marriage, He designed it to be in perfect union and oneness with Him. That means a commitment to be with Him together, as a couple, on a daily basis. That's what makes marriage beautiful and satisfying and wonderful. Yet, so many of us as followers of Christ, don't participate in the quiet time with God (together) daily. He's a 7-11 God, we run in get what we want and run back out again. Our marriages would be much more fulfilling, and covered in protection from attacks by the Evil One and the influences of our culture if we spent time with Him.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank you, you have gave me the answer that i have been looking for. it seems that you always help me when i post my questions on here.

let me tell you how you just help me. yes their is a curse on my husband and i and the person who put it their is me. let me tell you why. iam not doing what iam suppose to be doing in god eyesight as being the wife god wants me to be.

iam still not standing up to my mother the way i should and iam still not considering my husband's feeling by not moving back in with him and trying to work on our marraige.

he is begging me to pack my things and he will come and get me but i keep making up excuses about my school work on my computer having to be set up and i dont want to just jump and leave right but i just figured out what the real reason is and iam doing it unconsciouly.

iam still worried about what my mother thinks and how she is going to feel about me moving out of here again to go back to a man that lied to me about filing for divorce in the first place.

iam being cursed because iam not satifying god in his commands to be as one with my husband just like i vow. iam sure that my mother is doing her part behind my back too and its not just her feeding me negitive things. my mother is doing something else to me and my husband hehind our backs to keep confussion going between my huband and i.

but iam not going to fucus on my mother. iam the cause of my curse. me being stronger in the lord right now, being stronger than my husband i know satans tricks and i know better but yet i still allow my mother to bully me in my marriage.


my husband has not called me a week. i think he is mad with me because i would not pack up my things on monday and move in with him, now iam sorry. he will not return all of my phone calls and iam praying that he calls me soon so i can tell him to come and get me. i have packed my things already and iam ready to go back.

i realized that the lord is going to keep me in this situation until i learn how to be a good wife and stand up to my mother once and for all. yes iam cursed from my own disobedience and not supporting my husband.

i could not see it until you quoted those verses to me and sure enough unbeliveblaly something really clicked!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad the light bulb went on. Very Happy

I'm praying for your marriage and for your strength to cleave to your husband. God will bless you for your obedience.

The word "blessing" in Hebrew means to follow the right path.
If you want blessings upon your marriage, you're right, you will have to take another path than the one you've been walking on.

Also, once you get settled again with your husband, marital counseling is going to be necessary. It's impossible for you to "self-help." Unpack what destructive dynamics are taking place and how to stop those patterns with each other. It's also important to upack the unhealthy boundaries you have with your mom.

Proverbs 15:22
Plans fail for lack of counsel, but with many advisers they succeed.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so you dont think the smart remark my mother made to me about someone putting a curse on my husband and i and that their is no hope for him until he starts taking care of me like a husband is suppose to and i can pray and fast all i want the lord is still not going to bless my marriage until my husband start taking care of me.


do you agree with what my mother is saying? do you think that what she is saying to me is true? even thuough i dont believe a word she says when she says that their is no hope for my husband.


the only reason why iam in this situation as i told you before is because i keep running from my responsibilities as being a wife. i am going to have to learn that when things get really hard and when my husband says things like that that i just cant keep packing my things and running back to my mothers house.

yes it is still my fault not my husband no matter what he is doing or what he is not doing. it says in the bible that the wives are the husbands up keepers. we are suppose to stand by our husbands and support them and keep them going and that is not what i have been doing during the two years of our marraige. now everything is all messed up and i cant continue to blame my mother.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do you agree with what my mother is saying? Do you think that what she is saying to me is true?


No, I didn't say that. I think you may have misunderstood. And, I'm not really sure exactly what your mother is saying. It really isn't an important part of equation here.

What's important is, you have admitted to not doing your part as a wife. And, it seems your husband is possibly owning up to his part to because he wants you home?

We each have our own faults and contributions to breakdown in our marriages. Each person has to "own" their sinful patterns and work on fixing them. You're right, you can no longer blame your mother.

God uses the word "helper" to describe a wife. He also uses the same word "helper" to describe the Holy Spirit. That's a pretty important role He gives us in the lives of our husbands.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay i understand you very well now. and your right if my husband did not think he was wrong he would not be begging me to come back home. he would have just divorced me and move on.

guess what though? my mother and father went out this morning for breakfast together and they went shopping but to let her tell me every pay check i get she is behind in bills and she needs money from me to help out all the time and iam not the only child she has living in her house right now.

i have a 28 year old brother who just started a new job this week and he got his first check already yesterday do you think she asked him for anything? no i know she did not. and the reason why i know he got his check because when he came in from work at 7 in the afternoon he got all cleanned up and dressed up while my mother and i babysitted his 4 year old daughter and he did not come home until the next morning.


now iam thinking my parents are upstairs asleep but come to find out they were out to breakfast and shopping while i was here watching the baby but she was sleep!


now i see why my mother gos out of her way to cause so much trouble between my husband and me and it is because my mother wants me to stay locked in this room like some kind of animal, be her granddaughter's babysitter, maid, hairstylest, bank or whatever else she needs while she enjoys her life with her husband who has did more bad things to her than my husband!


so now iam wondering what is it going to be next week when i get my social security check? they went to shopping and breakfast this morning and bills need to be paid so i guess she thinks that iam going to repay what they went out to use today as normally.


but iam not. iam praying right now and asking the lord to forgive me for all of my sins and i want my husband to forgive me to and call. he hasent called in a week and he will not return my calls and iam guessing its because i told him no i could not pack up and move back in with him on monday.

my mother is just using me while she enjoy her life no matter what her and my father gos through neither one of them never jumped up and packed their things and left one another so where did i get that from?


iam just telling you what gos on in my mothers house and i realize that i cant keep blaming her or my husband. he has a right not to want to put up with my selfish mother. the way she is acting toward me is not the way a mother should be action toward a daughter period.

this just did not happen when i got married it just got worst. my mother has always did the selfish things to me but i was too blind to see it until i got married and wanted to follow my own rules with my huband. then she starts blaming him saying that he broke up our mother and daughter realationship and he is trying to come between family.


i now see that we never had a mother and daugher relationship. things were just on her term only and i am just her pet. i have my things already packed and waiting by gods grace for my husband to return my phone call and iam leaving for good this time.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I pray that your husband calls, soon.

And, in the future, when mom asks for money - the answer has to be "no."
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i promise you things are going to change this time when i move out because i understand what my mother reasons are for trying to ruin my marriage.

my cellphone is turned off and i refuse to pay my bill or let my husand pay my bill and this time when i leave i will not have my cellphone on for her to harrass me anymore and she is not allowed to come to my mother in laws house anyway. when i get my cellphone turned back on iam changing the number and she will not even know that i have a cellphone.

my in laws treat me more like a daughter than my own mother and my father gos right along with my mother until she starts doing the same thing to him and then he wants to talk about her.

i have no family support but my aunts which is mother's sisters and they have all told my to stay away from my mother because if anyone know her better is them. they told me that my mother loves a lot of attention and she is very selfish and if the attention is not on her then you are going to catch hell.


one of her sisters that she was very close to and she still is , her and my mother use to hang out and do everything together when they were teenage girls. my aunt told me that my mother use to go off and do so much dirt until it was a crying shame and she had to be the blame and babysit my mother and keep her out of trouble. and then my aunt said when she got married and could no long hang out with my mother then my mother started doing the same thing to her. she got mad at my aunt because she wanted to be with her husband now and things were diffrent.


my mother even told me that my aunts husband was trying to hit on her and that he wanted her. now i dont know if that is true since i have heard the story and seen things for myself. maybe my mother lied because she was mad that my aunt choose her husband over her.

my aunt has even invited me to come and live with her but i dont want to cause any trouble between them and my mother and plus i would be bored and unhappy their because i want to really be with my husband.

i thank you so much for taking the time to listen to my story and giving me motherly advice. the advice my own mother should be giving not other people. you are not the only one who has told me this, my aunts, other saints at my church, even the mother of the church and her husband the assistant paster has told me to leave my mother alone and satisfy my husband.


but it i not hard for me anymore because i see something new everday about my mother. my aunt also told me that my grandfather which is my aunt's father and my mother's father had a real difficult time dealing with my mother. my aunt told me before their father died he wrote a letter and in this letter the letter titled " how can i talk to my daughter". i was stunned when my aunt told me this and a couple of weeks later he died.

i know my aunt is not lieing because i cant even sit down and have a woman to woman talk with my mother and tell her to stay out of my marriage and business and let me handle things gods way.

but she fusses and raises sand with my father 24/7 about nothing and when i try to talk to her and tell her not to handle her situation with fussing and cursing she tell me to stay out of her business that i dont know what gos on between her and my father and there is no use to anyone coming to her and trying to talk to her about her husband and her behavior because she is going to act the way she wants to and nobody was going to tell her how to act.

but she can stay up in my face and tell me how to handle my husband?
so most definitely iam not going into 2008 with this same mess and iam vowing to make a change now and it starts with getting out of my mother's house and staying out!

i am starting to beleive now that my mother killed her father with stress and the devious things she did he was only in his 40'S! i refuse to let her kill me.

i am having pains in my stomach and headaches now but i believe that iam pregnant because iam having all of the same exact pregnancy sign of a pregnant woman but i havent took the test yet.

if that test comes out positive when i really hope in jesus name it dose, iam definitely moving out because iam not going to be stressed out and have my mother make me loss my baby.


she is already saying to me that it is not good for me to bring a child in this world and kids are a headache but i can brake my back and help her raise my brothers baby and she treats that 4 year old girl like she is her daugher more than she dose me.


i miss my husband to death and i want his call. i havent told my family that i could be pregnant yet and iam not telling them anything either.
i ran it by my husand but he dosent really beleive it because we have has so many false alarms but there is something totally diffrent in my spirit and my symptoms are not normal. i know that something is not right.


the last two false alarms i did not get any symptoms at all but man oh man i have just about 70% of pregnant sypmptoms and iam trying to weigh out the possiblilty of an infection, a bladder infection, maybe a tumor, iam not claiming a tumor in the name of jesus. but every symptom i have did reseach on and looked on the internet that associated with my sypmtoms none of the illness matched except pregnacy and pregnacy matched to the tee.
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