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sheshell Newbie

Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 10
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:12 am Post subject: Depressed and confused |
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| My husband and I just celebrated our 5th wedding anniversary, but we have been together for 11. I wasn't really excited about the day, because my husband and I have had an ongoing problem ever since we've been together. He doesn't put us first in his life. Although over the years it has gotten better, I still have to fight him for time. Time not only with me but also our two boys, ages 7 & 9. I used to think it was his friends influencing him, but as I watched and observed and listened to some things he has said I realized it is himself he puts first. It has definetly changed drastically over the years. Anytime I say anything about it he goes to the extreme of me just wanting him to stay at home and never do anything, but that's not true. I don't mind him having his hobbies(cars & motorcycles), but he is so wrapped up in it, he is always gone. He has always told me that boys need a father to show them how to grow up and be a man, but he is never here to do that with our children. They spend more time with me. I have just basically given up because no matter what I say, it doesn't change. I don't even feel like being a good wife. He asks me whats wrong, but I don't feel like going in to it because we have had this discussion so many times I already know what he is going to say. He'll say we just spent last night together, or everyday of the week together. He says the 2 hours at dinner and bowling is enough, even though he spent all Friday night at a car track and all day Saturday running around and all day Sunday at a motorcycle event. And during the week he counts him being on the computer and TV as quality time. Or then again maybe it's me, I just don't know anymore. |
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SAM Veteran

Joined: 03 Mar 2001 Posts: 2047 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I don't feel like going in to it because we have had this discussion so many times |
When we are in a place of being "stuck", it is time to get help. Otherwise, stuck becomes "bitter". And... it becomes "I just don't know anymore." - which really sounds like you are giving up.
I get the impression that you want more intimacy and connection with your husband and you also want this for your sons. Your husband may not have the tools to do this, so rather than feel inadequate, he is drawn toward what makes him feel good about himself. (Activities outside your home.) Also, it's possible his father may not have provided the best role model.
Some great books to consider:
Turning the Hearts of Fathers Back to Their Children by Deon, H. Glover
Head of the Family: Christian Fatherhood in the Modern World
by Clayton C. Barbeau
It doesn't sound like he has time to read but it's a thought.
Consider saying the following because it leaves out "you" statements and shares your feelings with him.
"I feel our family and our marriage is headed in a dangerous direction. I've been trying for awhile to verbalize what I see as danger for us and we're just not communicating well on this issue. To me it seem we are stuck. I'm very concerned that if we stay on this path we will self-destruct. I don't want to see that happen and it's time to get outside help. I don't want this to become a marriage/family neither one of us wants to be in. Our boys deserve better from us."
It's time for counseling. |
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sheshell Newbie

Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 10
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Thank you for your suggestions. He actually had a good father growing up, so I don't know where it comes from. We are trying to relocate to another city which means him leaving his friends behind. And I for one am excited because I think it will kind of force him to be at home, for a while anyway. I don't mind him doing things he likes to do, just not all the time where it takes away from our relationship and his relationship with our children. |
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SAM Veteran

Joined: 03 Mar 2001 Posts: 2047 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Another thing I experienced with my husband -
We were married very young at 19 and 20 and our first daughter came along five years later and the 2nd one four years after that.
It took a long time for him to mature and understand what sacrificing for his family meant. He was still thinking single, not married, when it came to his free time, family time and toys.
Sometimes our guys love us, they just aren't quite there yet in learning what it means to sacrifice personal time and toys when the family or marriage needs time and attention more.
BTW, my hubby "got it" when he gave his life over to Christ and found accountability partners (other guys) to do life with who were also men of God. |
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Joblom1 Full Member

Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 57 Location: Mn.
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:46 am Post subject: family time |
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| Hello- I agree with Sam, also do you have a church home, are there things your husband would do as a fam. at church? Let your husband know how much you love him, create those times when he is home that he sees you having fun with the kids that he will not want to miss. I know it feels sometimes that as wives we always do the plaaning. I lift your family up in prayer, the time goes so fast, lets pray that your husband will see his wive and kids as a priority. God Bless your day-She Shell. Jo-jo-does he mind if you go with on some of his outings? |
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sheshell Newbie

Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 10
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:58 am Post subject: |
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| We do have a church home and a couple of the guys that he rides motorcycles with goes there. He doesn't want me going with him because he says all that's around are guys. He comments on my unhappiness, so he knows I'm unhappy and if I bring up why he says " Here we go again". And I hate sounding like a broken record, but things never change. So this time I'm just not saying anything at all. It doesn't help when I do. |
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babycakes Veteran

Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 314 Location: In Prayer
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | He comments on my unhappiness, so he knows I'm unhappy and if I bring up why he says " Here we go again". And I hate sounding like a broken record, but things never change. So this time I'm just not saying anything at all. It doesn't help when I do. |
Under these circumstances when your marriage and family life is not the best that you want it to be, it's important to seek outside help. If you try to keep the peace, there will be a cost associated with it.
Resentment toward your husband.
God wants us to seek out his wisdom. We need only ask for it. And... that means seeking the wisdom of others who have more experience in this arena that we do.
By not listening to you and discounting your feelings about your marriage and family life, you husband is sinning. He is sinning because scripture very clearly tells him he is to love you as much as Christ loves the church. That's not happening when he says "Here we go again. " -
the words have the same connotation as rolling his eyes.
It completely dishonors you. |
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Joblom1 Full Member

Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 57 Location: Mn.
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:34 pm Post subject: Family time |
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| Hello-There are so many good responses on this site, I am glad I found it. I only wish that years ago- it would have been availble. When my husband brings up certain things adout family memories and I hear the timetable- I can hardly stand to listen- its as if He does not remember he was having an affair. So I push him for the answers to all my ?? and he keeps telling me he is praying about it. Jo-jo |
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babycakes Veteran

Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 314 Location: In Prayer
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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Honestly, I have found that my husband's memory is much different than mine. I tend to remember the details, he remembers the event.
Our guys are wired up much differently than we are - God intended that way. They don't think like we do or remember like we do.
More than likely, he does not remember the details of what took place and would have to go through hypnosis to remember every detail you want to know about.
I believe I remember your posts that this affair occured 10-15 years ago or longer? Dear sister in Christ, most of it is gone from his mind in terms of what was said and when and specific dates and times. He will remember visual detail, but not the other details you may be looking for. |
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Joblom1 Full Member

Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 57 Location: Mn.
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:30 pm Post subject: memories |
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| Babycakes-Thank you for your response. I appreciate it. But I do think for such a large part of his life he saw this woman over wkends and wanted to divorceme, you would have some memories of when it started and who ended it and why in the 1st place. For me its just to many unanswered ??s. I believe it started before she moved out of state and he does not want to hurt me anymore ten he has. This is someone he talked to on the phone on almost a daily basis. I am not asking for small details. I feel I am entitled to more then what he has told me-which is not alot. Jo-jo |
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findingtheway Full Member

Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 150
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Wow when I read your post it sounded familiar. My H too gradually started putting other things first before me and our kids. He only wanted me when it was convenient to him, when he was done with everything HE wanted to do. I would go to bed because he was doing other things then after I'm well asleep then he would come to bed and expect me to wake up and talk. I finally said no all he did was said fine, wasnt' willing to change it, I heard the same thing, not again, or stop nagging. THEN a little over a year ago he got injured and couldn't do anything, I mean nothing he wanted me by his side 24/7, I gave up everything to be by his side 24/7 for a year. I only did things I had to do, even with that he complained. During this time we talked extensively about his priorities and I heard one after the other how sorry he was and he would never do those things again ect. Which now he has changed alot, he does everything with us (most). But recently I gradually see him going back, he still spends time with us but I'm finding that he's back to waking up to the computer going to bed to the computer, we go to bed and he doesn't pay any attention to me, he's too tired, UNTIL he wants something. He says he's not doing this and thinks I'm wrong, I realize he needs the computer for work that's how he finds his work and he has to be quick because deals some and go VERY quickly so you always have to be ready but to me there comes a time to say ok if the deal wasn't here earlier then it wasn't meant to be. It really hurts because we talked about this and he promised he wouldn't do this again, I do feel resentful that I believed him and gave up EVERYTHING to be by his side. He always tells me he loves me (we both work from home) and when he's doing "other" things than spending time with me he tells me he loves me and gives me quick hugs but I never get the oh I'll do this later, or I'll call him later and these aren't important things, they are just things he wants to do, i understand if he's working, I know that he has changed A LOT so am I being too sensitive? All I ask is that we do what we used to, spend more quality time together, go to bed cuddle, play, not only when he wants something. Thanks |
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sheshell Newbie

Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 10
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:28 am Post subject: |
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| My husband goes and goes, but he doesn't see it. I'll say something about it and he says "Where have I been?" And I'll name off everyday where he has been and he still does not see it. When he left last night to go play pool after a whole week of not being around, I had had it. But I was not going to say anything, but then I thought I will try to say it calmly, not with anger. I got out 4 words and he flew off the handle and left. He comes home after I'm asleep, and when I woke up this morning he is hugging me and I guess expects me to be affectionate. But I can't. I didn't even want to talk to him. I just really don't know what to do anymore. I bend over backwards to make him happy and for what? |
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sheshell Newbie

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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Now he's leaving me, he says he has had it. I don't want my marriage to fall apart, so what do I do? |
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Joblom1 Full Member

Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 57 Location: Mn.
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:14 pm Post subject: Marriage |
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| Sheshell-I feel for you and what you are going thru. Do you have a church home that you feel you can go to? Talking to a pastor who is versed in counseling would help you and advise you. Something is going on with your husband . Take care of yourself and your family. Let him cool down. I lift you and your spouse up in prayer that you both will come thru this. Talking to your pastor if not the both of you.-You go. In Jesus name, I pray for your marriage, don't give up. JO-jo |
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arianna Newbie

Joined: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 1
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:24 am Post subject: |
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hello,
i have been married for 9yrs and five years ago i migreated and both my husband and i commited infidilty. every since we have been trying to make things work we seperated twice and i keep coming back right now i came back again and whithin a month he said this marriage is not working he is nmiserable he do not love me any more. and he think he would be better off apart. i look him in the eyes and said i am not giving the devil the satistfaction i am here to make my marriage work i beleive god can change things around he said he has forgiven me but our trust have been broken. well i am not giving up i ask him if we can go get help he said he knows his bible theres no preacher or no counslor that can change his minnd he just do not love me and get it stright. |
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